This podcast episode explores the power and significance of lists in various contexts, from personal organization to government categorization. It delves into the history of lists, the impact of sharing personal lists, the role of lists in bringing order to chaos, and the consequences of being on government lists. The episode shares stories of individuals who have created lists for success, dealt with the consequences of being labeled as foreign agents in Russia, and faced the challenges of living under suspicion. Ultimately, it highlights the way lists can both empower and oppress individuals in different aspects of life.