This podcast episode explores the evolution of security from the early days of limited internet connectivity to the emergence of web browsers and the development of web applications. It discusses the importance of cybersecurity in the face of exponential growth in breaches and the emergence of deepfake campaigns. The episode also traces the evolution of security practices, the growing role of developers in security, and the idea of automating security processes. It highlights the challenges faced in open source projects and the rising concerns of cybersecurity threats such as deepfakes and SEO poisoning. The episode concludes by discussing the three waves of change in software development and the future of access management and security, emphasizing the importance of protection against insider threats.