This episode explores the surprising parallels between the Star Wars saga and Roman history, particularly focusing on the fall of the Roman Republic and the rise of the Empire. Against this backdrop, the hosts discuss how George Lucas, while not a classical scholar, inadvertently incorporated Roman themes and imagery into his creation. More significantly, the conversation delves into the conscious and unconscious influences shaping Star Wars, including the political climate of the 1970s, classic Hollywood epics like "Ben-Hur," and the works of Isaac Asimov (Foundation) and Frank Herbert (Dune). For instance, the hosts analyze how the character of Emperor Palpatine mirrors the rise of Augustus, and how the destruction of the Republic echoes the anxieties surrounding the potential collapse of the American Republic. In contrast to Lucas's relatively superficial understanding of Roman history, the hosts highlight how later Star Wars installments and related media further developed these Roman parallels, often in ways that were not initially intended by Lucas himself. Ultimately, the discussion reveals how the enduring legacy of Rome continues to shape popular culture, particularly in science fiction, offering a framework for exploring themes of power, corruption, and the cyclical nature of empires.