How can leaders evolve from simply managing tasks to inspiring their teams? Hans-Werner Kaas suggests it takes more than technical expertise. He joins Kevin to discuss what it means to lead from the inside out, understanding yourself first to effectively lead others. He highlights the importance of human-centric leadership, emphasizing the need for self-awareness, humility, and resilience. Hans-Werner talks about the transition from the "imperial CEO" of the past to today's leaders, who must be more versatile, empathetic, and collaborative. He also shares advice on how to get honest feedback from your team.

Listen For

00:08 Introduction and Overview
01:26 Kevin Introduces Hans-Werner Kaas
02:30 Hans-Werner’s Career Journey
03:32 From Engineering to Leadership Consulting
05:26 Opening McKinsey’s Detroit Office
06:04 Insights on Leadership and Inspirational Leadership
07:53 Introduction to ‘The Journey of Leadership’ Book
09:08 The Fall of the Imperial CEO
12:04 Human-Centric Leadership
12:52 Leading from the Inside Out
16:04 Self-Assessment and Feedback for Leaders
19:24 Importance of Humility in Leadership
21:01 Versatility and Leadership Flexibility
24:51 Applying Leadership Traits in Organizations
25:21 The Role of Boldness and Empowerment
26:24 Fearless Learning with Navy SEAL Insights
29:56 Lessons for Non-CEOs
32:21 Hans-Werner’s Personal Interests and Hobbies
34:52 Books and Reading Recommendations
37:06 Closing Remarks and How to Learn More
38:57 Kevin’s Final Thoughts: Taking Action

Book Recommendations

The Journey of Leadership: How CEOs Learn to Lead from the Inside Out by Dana Maor, Hans-Werner Kaas, Kurt Strovink, Ramesh Srinivasan
Outlive: The Science and Art of Longevity by Peter Attia MD with Bill Gifford
Democracy Awakening: Notes on the State of America by Heather Cox Richardson
Age of Revolutions: Progress and Backlash from 1600 to the Present by Fareed Zakaria

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