In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, Joe interviews Calley and Casey Means, siblings who grew up in Washington D.C. and initially worked in food and pharma. They discuss the alarming state of American health, which they attribute to metabolic dysfunction caused by poor diet and environmental factors. Calley shares his experience as a lobbyist for the food and pharma industries, revealing how these industries prioritize profit over public health, influencing research and policy. Casey, a former surgeon, explains how medical education is siloed, failing to address the root causes of diseases. They discuss the capture of major institutions by these industries, the corruption of scientific research, and the need for a radical shift in how we approach health and nutrition. They advocate for empowering individuals with information and promoting lifestyle changes, and they touch on the potential for political change with figures like RFK Jr. and Donald Trump addressing these issues.
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