In this podcast episode, Joe Rogan sits down with Donald Trump for an engaging discussion about Trump's journey to the presidency. They delve into his early campaign, the hurdles he encountered while in office, and his strategies for tackling media bias, foreign policy, and promoting economic independence. Trump shares his reflections on the surreal experience of winning the presidency, the challenge of finding trustworthy appointments, and the lessons he learned from past mistakes. Their conversation highlights key issues like election integrity, the impact of the "defund the police" movement, and the significance of American manufacturing. Throughout, Trump emphasizes his belief in leadership as a means of strategic negotiation to avert global conflicts.