In this podcast episode, we explore the intricate dynamics of Elon Musk's relationship with Ukraine and Russia, particularly related to his Starlink internet services during the ongoing conflict. The discussion focuses on Musk’s evolving position, especially after Ukraine's controversial use of Starlink for military purposes, which sparked criticism and suggestions that he may be siding with Russian interests. We also uncover the regular communication between Musk and Putin, shedding light on their talks about geopolitical matters and the potential risks for national security, including information leaks. Ultimately, the episode raises important questions about this high-profile relationship, stressing the need for more thorough examination given Musk's significant influence and access to sensitive data.