This podcast explores the changing role of engineering leaders and highlights the critical importance of developer experience (DX) in driving business success. The discussion kicks off with personal career stories that emphasize the significance of intuition and forging one's own career path. It then transitions into how to measure engineering impact through the new DX Core 4 framework, which includes speed, effectiveness, quality, and business impact. The episode wraps up with valuable advice on crafting business cases for DX improvements and dealing with resistance to change within organizations. A standout tip is to use surveys to establish a baseline for DX before diving into automated data collection tools. Listeners will walk away with actionable strategies for quantifying DX, creating persuasive business cases, and promoting collaboration to enhance engineering efficiency and boost overall business results.