Do you lead over or through? Jonathan Clark says leading through is finding leadership everywhere throughout the organization. He shares three essential elements of leadership: heart, mind, and soul. Leadership is fundamentally about doing what’s right and leading through positive influence rather than coercion or authority. Jonathan believes there can be “love” in leadership – more than an idea but genuine appreciation, attention, and support for colleagues.

Listen For

00:00 Introduction
00:08 Clarifying Leadership Beyond Command and Control
00:33 Welcome to The Remarkable Leadership Podcast
01:13 Engage with Us on Social Media
01:44 Introduction to Jonathan Clark
02:29 Discussing the Origins of Leadership Concepts
04:04 Insights from a Cement Plant Study on Leadership
07:03 Distinguishing Leadership from Power and Control
09:29 The Process of Writing a Book with Family
10:29 Leadership as a Process of Mobilization
12:06 Exploring the Soul of Leadership
13:30 Leadership as a Moral Act
16:17 Challenges of Defining Leadership vs. Coercion
18:00 Persistence of Command-and-Control Models in Leadership
21:05 The Heart of Leadership: Focusing on Thriving People
24:18 Love as a Core Leadership Value
25:31 Making Wellness and Success of Others a Priority
26:04 The Mind of Leadership: Problem Solving and Decision-Making
28:34 Practical Advice for Leaders: Start with the Soul
29:34 Fun Facts About Jonathan Clark
29:56 Jonathan’s Current Reading: A Biography of Mitt Romney
31:09 Where to Learn More About Jonathan and His Work
32:11 Reflecting on Leadership as a Verb and a Moral Act
33:08 Closing Remarks

Meet Jonathan

Jonathan's Story: Jonathan R. Clark is the co-author of Leading Through: Activating the Heart, Soul, and Mind of Leadership, written alongside his father and sister. He is a professor of management at The University of Texas at San Antonio, where he has also served as a department chair and associate dean. His work focuses on helping leaders create the conditions under which individuals, groups, and organizations do their best collective work. He holds a master's degree from the Harvard T. H. Chan School of Public Health and a doctoral degree from the Harvard Business School.

https://www.leadingthrough.co/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-clark-3734616/

Book Recommendations

Leading Through: Activating the Soul, Heart, and Mind of Leadership by Kim B. Clark, Jonathan R. Clark, Erin E. Clark
Romney: A Reckoning by McKay Coppins

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