In this podcast, the guest presents a thought-provoking theory of consciousness, arguing that it is a fundamental aspect of existence rather than merely a byproduct of physical processes. To illustrate this idea, they compare our perception of reality to wearing a virtual reality headset, which simplifies and filters our experiences through the lens of natural selection, prioritizing fitness over objective truth. This "headset" hides a deeper reality—a complex web of conscious agents that exists beyond the confines of space and time. The guest also highlights how mathematics, especially Gödel's incompleteness theorem, points to an infinite journey of understanding consciousness, driving the dynamics of this interconnected network. The conversation delves into the implications of this theory for our views on death, artificial intelligence, faster-than-light travel, and the very nature of reality, stressing the importance of developing rigorous mathematical models to connect our perceived world with this profound underlying consciousness.