In this episode of Fresh Air Weekend, comedian Ronny Chieng and author Miranda July take center stage. Chieng shares insights about his latest Netflix comedy special, his role on *The Daily Show*, and the challenges of discussing political differences with friends. Meanwhile, July delves into her novel *All Fours*, which examines a woman's journey through perimenopause and the societal expectations tied to aging. Both guests provide thought-provoking reflections on personal and societal issues. Chieng emphasizes the value of perseverance in a tough industry, while July advocates for honest self-reflection during life’s transitions. For instance, Chieng reveals his hesitation to tell his parents about his success on *The Daily Show*, choosing to focus on his work rather than seeking immediate approval.