In this podcast episode, the hosts delve into two key topics: the ongoing scandal involving the FDIC's maneuvers against the crypto sector and the emergence of a new crowdsale platform, Echo. They kick off by examining newly surfaced documents that shed light on the FDIC's efforts to stifle crypto banking, particularly following a judge's decision to make these documents public. The conversation then shifts to the implications of Echo's rise, exploring the potential tensions between venture capitalists and crowdsale platforms, along with discussions about platform fees and the strategic advantage of wider token distribution. To lighten the mood, the episode wraps up with a funny look at the podcast's 2024 stats, featuring word counts and filler words from each host. Finally, they share their predictions for the crypto market in 2025. A key takeaway from this episode is the troubling insight into the FDIC's apparent attempts to thwart crypto adoption through its regulatory strategies.