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In this episode of the 20VC podcast, host Mikey Shulman, co-founder and CEO of Suno, shares insights into the journey of their music creation platform. What started as an enterprise AI audio tool has transformed into a consumer-friendly platform for making music. Shulman highlights how scaling laws impact AI music generation, suggesting that smaller, well-tuned models often outperform larger ones. He envisions the future of music as an immersive experience, more like video games than traditional formats.
The discussion touches on the legal challenges posed by the RIAA, the fierce competition for top talent from bigger AI companies, and Suno’s distinctive monetization strategy—charging users from day one. A key point Shulman emphasizes is that upcoming music platforms will focus on enhancing user experience and fostering creativity, rather than fixating on the technology behind them, which could lead to a more inclusive and dynamic music industry.
