This co-hosted podcast reviews a Joe Rogan Experience episode featuring Rick Perry and Bryan Hubbard discussing Ibogaine, a Schedule 1 drug. The hosts analyze Perry and Hubbard's advocacy for Ibogaine treatment, particularly for veterans struggling with PTSD and addiction, highlighting their passionate arguments and personal stories. They discuss the potential benefits of Ibogaine as a treatment for various conditions, including addiction and PTSD, and the significant obstacles to its legalization and wider use, such as bureaucratic hurdles and the influence of pharmaceutical companies. A clip from Tim Ferriss' podcast describes Ibogaine's effects as a "life review" experience, prompting discussion on the drug's potential to rewire the brain and address underlying issues. The hosts conclude by emphasizing the need for further research and advocating for increased access to Ibogaine treatment for those in need.