This interview podcast explores the inaccuracies surrounding the purported health benefits of alcohol. The host interviews Tim Stockwell, a scientist who reviewed numerous studies and found that the often-cited "J-shaped curve" showing moderate drinking as beneficial was flawed due to significant selection bias and confounding factors like socioeconomic status. Stockwell highlights that the alcohol industry's influence on research contributed to this misconception. He discusses the actual risks of alcohol consumption, including increased cancer risk and reduced life expectancy, even at moderate levels. The podcast concludes by examining policy implications, such as minimum unit pricing and warning labels, aimed at reducing alcohol-related harm and shifting public perception.