This interview podcast explores the science of goal setting and how to choose a life path aligned with one's values. The host interviews psychologist Ken Sheldon, who discusses his research on intrinsic vs. extrinsic motivation and the challenges of aligning personal goals with societal expectations. Sheldon recounts his own experiences pursuing misaligned goals, highlighting the importance of self-reflection and identifying deeper, often unconscious, desires. A key takeaway is the three-stage process of preparation, illumination, and verification for discovering fulfilling goals, illustrated by the story of "Amy," a successful but unhappy lawyer who rediscovers her passion for environmental work. Ultimately, the podcast emphasizes the need to listen to internal cues and prioritize intrinsic motivation for lasting happiness and fulfillment.