This interview podcast focuses on Chinese cyber operations, their evolution over the past two decades, and the implications for global security. The discussion begins with a historical overview of China's cyber capabilities, progressing to a detailed analysis of the "Typhoon" campaigns (Salt and Volt Typhoon), highlighting the differences in their objectives and the challenges in attributing actions to specific actors due to the use of contractors and proxies. The conversation then explores the lack of clear norms in cyberspace and the potential responses from Western nations, including the debate over whether to escalate offensive cyber operations. A key takeaway is the increasing sophistication and scale of Chinese cyber operations, posing a significant threat to critical infrastructure and potentially impacting societal stability.
