This Security Accelerator Podcast episode is an interview discussing the use of generative AI and large language models (LLMs) in cybersecurity. The conversation begins with an overview of existing frameworks like NIST AI 600-1 and OWASP's generative AI governance resources, emphasizing the crucial role of establishing internal governance and risk committees. The discussion then shifts to the three key areas of focus: leveraging AI for business needs, using AI for cybersecurity defense (e.g., in SOCs), and mitigating the risks of AI-based attacks (like sophisticated phishing). The speakers highlight the importance of user education and policy, suggesting that a "crawl, walk, run" approach to integrating AI into SOC workflows is beneficial, starting with simple queries and progressing to automated tasks. Finally, the conversation touches upon the evolving nature of AI-based attacks and the need for updated cybersecurity awareness training.