This interview podcast features Reid Hoffman and Aria Finger in conversation with Fei-Fei Li, a renowned computer scientist and AI expert. The discussion centers on Li's pioneering work in AI, specifically her creation of ImageNet and her current work at World Labs, focusing on spatial intelligence. Li explains the concept of spatial intelligence as the ability of machines to understand and interact with the 3D world, contrasting it with the linguistic focus of large language models. The conversation also touches upon the ethical implications of AI, the importance of human agency, and the need for public-private partnerships in AI development, advocating for a human-centered approach. Li emphasizes the importance of respecting human agency and focusing regulatory efforts on the applications of AI rather than hindering its development.