This interview podcast discusses the ongoing H5N1 bird flu outbreak in the United States. The interview begins with an overview of the outbreak's origins in Texas and its subsequent spread to cattle and humans, including the first human death reported in Louisiana. The guest details the slow and inadequate government response, highlighting the lack of timely funding for research, insufficient testing protocols, and insufficient outreach to farmworkers. Experts are concerned about the potential for the virus to mutate and cause a human pandemic, emphasizing the need for swift, coordinated action to prevent a catastrophic outcome. The interview concludes with a discussion of the economic impact on the agriculture industry and the ongoing efforts to protect farmworkers, while emphasizing that the risk to the general public remains low unless they work directly with poultry or dairy.