#573: A Free World Needs Private Money with Calle

<p>Marty sits down with Calle to discuss Cashu.</p> <p><br></p> <p>Cashu: https://cashu.space/</p> <p>Calle on Nostr: https://primal.net/calle</p> <p><br></p> <p> </p> <p>0:00 - Intro</p> <p>0:36 - Programming is art</p> <p>5:36 - Zooming out on the struggle for freedom</p> <p>10:23 - Dealing with the pace of change</p> <p>14:20 - Unchained &amp; Fold</p> <p>16:13 - Financial privacy</p> <p>20:43 - Chaumian ecash history</p> <p>33:34 - Zaprite &amp; SOTE</p> <p>35:06 - Ecash on bitcoin</p> <p>42:55 - Hash pools</p> <p>48:45 - Interoperable systems</p> <p>52:11 - We need more privacy and more devs</p> <p>55:24 - Narrative and communication</p> <p>1:00:45 - Magic stuff that just works</p> <p>1:10:19 - Nostr as a gateway to bitcoin</p> <p>1:17:21 - Wrap up</p> <p> </p> <p>Shoutout to our sponsors:</p> <p><br></p> <p>Unchained</p> <p>https://unchained.com/tftc/</p> <p>Fold</p> <p>https://foldapp.com/marty</p> <p>Zaprite</p> <p>https://zaprite.com/tftc</p> <p>Salt of the Earth</p> <p>https://drinksote.com/tftc</p> <p><br></p> <p><br></p> <p>Join the TFTC Movement:</p> <p>Main YT Channel</p> <p>https://www.youtube.com/c/TFTC21/videos</p> <p>Clips YT Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUQcW3jxfQfEUS8kqR5pJtQ</p> <p>Website</p> <p>https://tftc.io/</p> <p>Twitter</p> <p>https://twitter.com/tftc21</p> <p>Instagram</p> <p>https://www.instagram.com/tftc.io/</p> <p>Nostr</p> <p>https://primal.net/tftc</p> <p><br></p> <p><br></p> <p>Follow Marty Bent:</p> <p>Twitter</p> <p>https://twitter.com/martybent</p> <p>Nostr</p> <p>https://primal.net/martybent</p> <p>Newsletter</p> <p>https://tftc.io/martys-bent/</p> <p>Podcast</p> <p>https://www.tftc.io/tag/podcasts/</p>