This Joe Rogan Experience interview features Tom Campbell, who presents his "My Big TOE" theory. The conversation begins with Campbell's unusual path to researching consciousness, involving a meditative experience that revealed coding errors. Campbell then details his "My Big TOE" theory, proposing that reality is a virtual construct generated by a larger consciousness system, where individuals are conscious avatars making choices that influence their evolution. He argues that this model explains quantum physics, the Fermi Paradox, and even religious concepts, suggesting that the goal of this system is to increase love and cooperation. The interview concludes with a discussion of AI sentience and the possibility of more evolved consciousnesses interacting with our reality.