This panel discussion podcast features Jason Calacanis, David Friedberg, Chamath Palihapitiya, and Mark Pincus. The conversation begins with light banter and then transitions to a discussion of the recent wildfires in California, focusing on governmental responses, specifically the price gouging regulations implemented by Governor Newsom and Mayor Bass. The panelists debate the effectiveness of these regulations, with Friedberg and Pincus arguing for a freer market approach and Palihapitiya offering a more nuanced perspective, acknowledging the need for some protections for vulnerable homeowners. The discussion then shifts to the potential ban of TikTok in the US and the implications for national security and the tech industry, concluding with reflections on the changing landscape of higher education and the potential obsolescence of MBAs in the age of AI. A final segment touches on Mark Pincus's involvement in a documentary about UFOs.