This interview podcast features Luis von Ahn, creator of CAPTCHA and CEO of Duolingo, discussing his career and insights into the world of computer science and academia. The podcast begins with a brief introduction to von Ahn and his accomplishments, followed by a discussion of his invention of CAPTCHAs and how they were repurposed to digitize books. The conversation then shifts to Duolingo's business model, its success in language education, and the challenges of balancing free access with profitability. Finally, the discussion touches upon the overproduction of academic papers and the need for a better system to incentivize quality over quantity in research. A key takeaway is von Ahn's innovative approach to leveraging human effort for computational tasks, exemplified by CAPTCHA's use in digitizing books.