This co-hosted podcast discusses the beginning of Donald Trump's second presidency. The hosts analyze Biden's legacy, focusing on concerns about his cognitive decline and its impact on national and international affairs. They then delve into Trump's populist platform, examining the potential challenges and opportunities presented by his "America First" agenda, including its implications for the economy and foreign policy. The discussion also touches upon the concept of oligarchy and the influence of wealthy individuals like Elon Musk on public discourse. A key takeaway is the importance of distinguishing between objective economic indicators and public sentiment, highlighting the dangers of manipulating data to create a false narrative of economic success.