This interview podcast features Dr. Mark Hyman interviewing Dr. Aseem Malhotra, a cardiologist critical of mainstream cardiovascular health approaches. The discussion centers on a recent UK court case vindicating Malhotra and colleagues against defamation claims for criticizing statin use. The conversation then explores the complexities of statin research, highlighting the limitations of existing data and the overemphasis on LDL cholesterol as the primary driver of cardiovascular disease. Malhotra argues for a more nuanced approach, emphasizing the importance of informed consent and considering factors like insulin resistance and inflammation. The podcast concludes by discussing the influence of commercial interests on medical research and the need for a more holistic approach to cardiovascular health, including lifestyle interventions. A key takeaway is the statistic that treating 83 people with statins for five years after a heart attack only saves one life, illustrating the limited benefit in some cases.