This Joe Rogan Experience interview features two retired Air Force Master Sergeants, Jason Sands and Lenval Logan, who discuss their involvement in a classified US government program related to UFOs and non-human intelligence (NHI). The conversation begins with Sands recounting a childhood UFO sighting and progresses to his later experiences within the program, including intercepted communications referencing NHI interactions and retrieval programs. Logan then shares his own experiences and perspectives, highlighting the inconsistencies and unanswered questions surrounding the topic. The discussion delves into the nature of NHI, potential motivations for contact, and the ethical implications of government secrecy. A key takeaway is Sands's firsthand account of a telepathic encounter with an NHI, revealing details about the being's appearance and a request for a specific material, tritium.