This interview podcast delves into the complex and contradictory historical figure of Emperor Tiberius. The hosts discuss conflicting accounts of Tiberius's reign, contrasting the positive portrayal of a wise and peaceful ruler with the negative depiction of a cruel and depraved tyrant found in Suetonius's biography. The discussion analyzes the potential motivations behind these contrasting narratives, exploring Tiberius's internal conflicts stemming from his Claudian heritage and his role as Augustus's adopted heir. Specific examples, such as the "fisherman and mullet" anecdote, are examined to illustrate the mythical and folkloric elements intertwined with historical accounts. The podcast ultimately suggests that Tiberius's legacy is a blend of both positive contributions and negative actions, making him a multifaceted and historically significant figure.