This interview podcast discusses Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s nomination for the Secretary of Health and Human Services. The discussion begins by exploring Kennedy's controversial anti-establishment views, particularly his vaccine skepticism, and how this aligns with the "Make America Healthy Again" (MAHA) movement. The interview then traces the history of the anti-vaccine movement, highlighting key events and figures, and analyzes how it evolved from a fringe group to a more mainstream force during the COVID-19 pandemic. Finally, the conversation shifts to Kennedy's potential impact on public health policies if confirmed, focusing on the concerns and reactions from public health officials and the MAHA movement. For example, the interview highlights the fear among public health officials that Kennedy's appointment could lead to decreased vaccination rates and a resurgence of preventable diseases.