This interview podcast features Dr. Jordan B. Peterson interviewing Vani Hari ("Food Babe"), a food activist. The conversation begins with a discussion of alarmingly high rates of obesity and diabetes in the US, particularly among children, and the role of the food industry. Hari details her personal journey from corporate consultant to food activist, triggered by health issues and the discovery of harmful additives in processed foods. She advocates for holding food companies accountable for using ingredients banned in other countries and promoting a return to whole, unprocessed foods. A key example cited is the high fructose corn syrup used in US Coca-Cola products, unlike the real sugar used in other countries. The discussion concludes with Hari's renewed hope for change, fueled by a recent Senate roundtable and increased public awareness.