This interview podcast features Jason Swenk interviewing Jim Heininger, owner of two branding and communications firms. The conversation centers on agency branding and rebranding, specifically addressing the challenges and strategies involved in choosing the right name and visual identity for an agency, as well as the importance of a strong brand promise. Heininger emphasizes that agencies frequently rebrand, and that a successful rebrand requires careful consideration of the agency's unique value proposition and target audience. The discussion includes practical advice on developing a compelling brand name, the complexities of trademarking, and the importance of controlling the narrative around the agency's brand to influence customer perception. Listeners gain insights into the process of rebranding an agency and the long-term impact of brand building on agency success.