This interview podcast explores the psychology of grudges and their impact on well-being. The host interviews psychologist Fred Luskin, who discusses case studies illustrating how holding onto grievances affects individuals' mental and physical health, impacting sleep, relationships, and overall life satisfaction. Luskin details three stages of grudge formation: taking things personally, blaming others, and constructing a grievance story. He offers practical strategies, including positive emotion refocusing techniques (PERT) and identifying ineffective coping mechanisms, to help listeners let go of past hurts and improve their well-being. A key takeaway is that forgiveness is not about condoning wrongdoing but about reclaiming control over one's emotional and mental state, ultimately benefiting oneself rather than the person who caused the initial harm.