This podcast interviews Anne Applebaum, an expert on autocracy, about Elon Musk's unprecedented influence on the US government. The discussion covers Musk's access to sensitive data, the lack of legal precedent for his actions, and the responses of US government officials. Applebaum draws parallels to authoritarian regimes, highlighting the erosion of the rule of law and the difficult choices faced by government employees. The interview also touches on the broader international implications, particularly Europe's concerns about Musk's influence on elections and media narratives, and the potential damage to US alliances. A key takeaway is the lack of legal basis for Musk's actions and the resulting ethical dilemmas for those within the US government.