This Decoder podcast episode interviews New York Times reporter Teddy Schleiffer about Elon Musk's newly formed "DOGE" and its actions within the US federal government. The discussion centers on DOGE's rapid, disruptive actions, including access to the Treasury Department's payment system and workforce reductions, raising concerns about legality and accountability. Schleiffer highlights the speed and scale of DOGE's operations, leaving even the media struggling to keep up, and questions remain about the extent of Musk's control and the Trump administration's response. The interview also touches upon the reactions of other billionaires and the potential for legal challenges to halt DOGE's actions. The episode concludes by exploring whether DOGE's actions constitute a coup and the potential for business leaders to react to the instability.