This podcast interviews Lawrence Cunningham, an expert in corporate governance, about the value of trust-based cultures in organizations, particularly as exemplified by Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway. The discussion covers Buffett's advice on board leadership (hire a trustworthy CEO and stay out of their way), the benefits of trust (increased employee performance, customer loyalty, lower financing costs), and the drawbacks of overly rule-based systems. Cunningham details the case of David Sokol, a former Berkshire executive who violated trust, highlighting the importance of swift and public consequences in maintaining a strong culture. The interview also touches upon Berkshire's large cash position and the challenges of quality investing in a market that often premiums quality businesses.