This podcast interviews Karina Nguyen, an AI researcher at OpenAI, about her work building cutting-edge AI features like Canvas and Tasks for ChatGPT. The conversation explores model training, the role of synthetic data, and the evolving skills needed for product teams in the age of AI. Nguyen highlights the increasing importance of soft skills like creative thinking, prioritization, and effective communication, as AI increasingly automates hard skills. A key takeaway is the shift in product development towards AI-assisted prototyping, using evaluations to define "correct" model behavior. Listeners gain insights into the inner workings of OpenAI and the future of work in the rapidly advancing field of AI.