This podcast episode features a discussion about the ongoing war in Ukraine, focusing on an interview with Oliver Carroll, The Economist's correspondent in Ukraine. The interview covers President Zelensky's perspective on the war's status, his concerns about limited communication with the US, particularly regarding potential deals with Russia, and his determination to prevent a deal that excludes Ukraine's interests. Zelensky's weariness and the bleak situation on the front lines are highlighted, along with his plans to strengthen Ukraine's military capabilities even if NATO membership is unattainable. The episode also touches upon the challenges Zelensky faces domestically, including declining approval ratings. The interview concludes with Zelensky's unwavering resolve to prevent Putin's victory.