This podcast features an interview with Ken Liu, a science fiction and fantasy writer, discussing his career, creative process, and views on artificial intelligence's impact on art. The conversation begins with Liu's background and transitions into his perspectives on the nature of storytelling, the role of craft in writing, and the evolving relationship between technology and art. Liu argues that while AI may replace jobs in cliché-driven art forms, it will also create new artistic possibilities, emphasizing the importance of human consciousness and creativity in pushing artistic boundaries. He suggests that full transparency regarding AI's use in creative works is crucial. As an example, he highlights his admiration for authors like Ursula K. Le Guin and Philip K. Dick, who blurred genre lines and explored complex themes.