This HODLong podcast episode interviews Nico, CEO of OX.FUN, a cryptocurrency exchange. The conversation covers Nico's background in crypto, starting with early exposure in 2015, his views on "supercycles" (interpreting them as prominent market trends rather than solely long-term growth), and his assessment of the cryptocurrency market landscape, particularly focusing on Bitcoin's dominance and the rise of AI-driven agents. Nico details OX.FUN's unique economic model, using the OX token to manage risk and reward top traders, and discusses their strategic decisions regarding platform development and token listings. A key takeaway is Nico's belief in Bitcoin's long-term viability and OX.FUN's adaptability to evolving market trends.