This podcast investigates the effectiveness of the Housing First approach to combatting homelessness, a strategy that prioritizes providing housing before addressing other issues like addiction or mental health. The interview features a reporter who explores both the successes and criticisms of Housing First, including anecdotes from tenants and staff in Seattle housing projects. A key example discussed is the 1811 East Lake Project, which housed chronically alcoholic individuals without mandatory sobriety requirements, yielding surprisingly positive results regarding housing stability, despite modest reductions in alcohol consumption. The discussion highlights the ongoing debate between Housing First and Treatment First approaches, emphasizing the need for a comprehensive strategy that addresses the continuous influx of individuals into homelessness. The podcast concludes by emphasizing that Housing First, while effective for many, is only one part of a larger solution and its implementation requires careful consideration and adaptation.