This podcast episode features an interview with Tom Hale, CEO of Oura, focusing on sleep optimization strategies and the future of AI in healthcare. The conversation begins with Logan Bartlett's personal experience using the Oura ring, leading into a discussion of Hale's behavioral changes (reduced alcohol and caffeine, improved diet via CGM tracking, mindfulness) that improved his sleep and cognitive function. Hale then discusses Oura's business model, its unique position in the market, and the potential of AI to personalize health coaching and preventative care. A key takeaway is the significant impact of sleep on cognitive performance and long-term health, supported by data from studies like the one on NBA players' performance. The episode concludes with a look at Oura's future plans, including international expansion and integration with other health data sources.