This podcast episode features Guy Raz interviewing Max Levchin, a co-founder of PayPal, about his journey. The interview begins with Levchin's childhood in Ukraine under Soviet rule, his early programming experiences, and his move to the US. It then delves into his entrepreneurial journey, focusing on the founding of PayPal, its early struggles, the merger with X.com, and its eventual acquisition by eBay. Levchin describes the intense work culture and the challenges of scaling PayPal, including significant fraud issues. The episode concludes with Levchin reflecting on his post-PayPal life and the lessons learned from his experiences. A key takeaway is Levchin's emphasis on the importance of user-friendly design in the success of PayPal, contrasting it with earlier failed attempts at similar products.