This podcast features an interview with Michael Pollan, focusing on the issues raised in his new film, *Food, Inc. 2*. The conversation covers the consolidation of the food industry, the rise of ultra-processed foods, and the challenges of advocating for food system reform. Pollan highlights the political power wielded by large food corporations, citing instances where they influenced government policy, such as the Tyson Foods incident during the COVID-19 pandemic. Specific solutions discussed include front-of-package labeling, strengthening antitrust laws, and promoting regenerative agriculture. The discussion emphasizes the need for policy changes to incentivize healthier food choices and the importance of educating children about food preparation and cooking.