This podcast features an interview discussing the challenges of personal growth and its impact on relationships. The conversation explores how self-reflection, meditation (specifically mentioning techniques like Shinzen Young's Five Ways to Know Yourself), and Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) can help manage internal struggles and improve mental well-being. The speakers highlight the importance of recognizing that most suffering is self-created and that consistent effort, rather than quick fixes, is key to lasting change. They also discuss the concept of *dukkha* (suffering or dissatisfaction) and how cultivating equanimity can lead to greater peace and joy. The interview concludes with practical advice on managing internal struggles and cultivating self-love.