This podcast features an interview with Scott Bessent, the 79th Secretary of the Treasury, focusing on the current US economic situation, particularly the high national debt and deficit. The discussion covers Bessent's background in macro investing, his perspective on the Biden administration's economic policies, and the Trump administration's proposed three-pronged plan to address the debt, including spending cuts, deregulation, and international trade adjustments. Bessent details specific policy proposals, such as targeting government waste and reforming the IRS, and emphasizes the need for a controlled approach to avoid recession. Listeners gain insight into the complexities of US fiscal policy and the challenges of balancing economic growth with debt reduction. The interview concludes with a discussion on the potential creation of a US sovereign wealth fund.