This episode explores the ramifications of President Trump's trade policies, specifically the imposition of tariffs and their impact on the global economy. Against the backdrop of initial market turmoil caused by the unexpected and sweeping tariffs, the conversation pivots to the subsequent 90-day pause and its implications. More significantly, the discussion delves into the reactions of CEOs and boards, revealing a widespread hesitancy to make investment decisions due to the extreme uncertainty created by the fluctuating policies. For instance, the unusual behavior in the treasury market, a traditionally stable asset, is highlighted as a key indicator of the growing unease. As the discussion progresses, the interviewee analyzes the potential long-term effects of these tariffs on U.S. growth and advises companies to adopt a wait-and-see approach. The conversation concludes by examining the broader debate surrounding America's role in the global economy and the need for a coherent framework to replace the discredited Washington Consensus, emphasizing the importance of technological innovation and a balanced approach to trade and industrial policy. What this means for the future of the U.S. economy and its global standing remains uncertain, but the interview underscores the need for a more strategic and less volatile approach to trade policy.