This episode explores the future of artificial intelligence, particularly focusing on the limitations of current Large Language Models (LLMs) and the potential of alternative architectures. Against the backdrop of the rapid advancements in LLMs, Yann LeCun expresses less interest in them, arguing that they are a simplistic approach to reasoning and lack the ability to understand the physical world or possess persistent memory. More significantly, he advocates for Joint Embedding Predictive Architectures (JEPAs) as a more promising approach, capable of building abstract mental models for reasoning and planning, similar to human cognition. For instance, he highlights the failure of pixel-level video prediction models and the success of representation-level prediction in achieving better results with fewer resources. As the discussion pivoted to the timeline for achieving advanced machine intelligence (AMI), LeCun suggests that while significant progress is possible within three to five years, achieving human-level AI remains a distant goal, contrasting with overly optimistic predictions in the field. This means for the AI industry that a focus on robust, reliable systems that can understand and interact with the physical world is crucial, rather than solely focusing on scaling LLMs.