This episode explores the impact of fluctuating US tariffs on the market, particularly within the tech sector. Against the backdrop of confusing and contradictory announcements regarding tariff exemptions, the hosts discuss the resulting market volatility and its implications for long-term investors. More significantly, the conversation highlights the current market uncertainty as a "liminal period" of transition, characterized by incomplete information and unpredictable policy shifts. For instance, the initial positive market reaction to perceived tariff relief quickly reversed as the ambiguity persisted, illustrating the challenges for investors navigating this period of flux. The hosts also analyze the performance of Goldman Sachs, whose strong equity trading revenue in the face of market volatility contrasts with weakness in other segments, suggesting a potential short-term gain but highlighting the risks associated with relying on volatility for investment success. Finally, the discussion pivots to identifying positive indicators for investors, such as companies effectively addressing "migraine-level" problems, exhibiting solid unit economics, and benefiting from strong network effects. What this means for investors is a need for careful analysis, focusing on long-term strategies and a keen understanding of market dynamics beyond short-term fluctuations.