Two VPs (Aakash & Brad) candidly discuss how they went from their first PM job to VP, what actually helped them (no gatekeeping), and how you can do the same.

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In this episode:

Trailer – 00:00

Intro to Brad & Abrigo – 01:25

How we Became PMs - 2:55

How to Grow from PM to Senior PM – 07:21

Aakash’s Journey from PM to Senior PM – 09:58

What Really Drives Promotions (Career Matrix) – 14:12

Ad (Linear) – 16:58

Ad (Amplitude) - 17:50

Deep Dive: Using the Career Matrix for Growth – 18:25

Moving from Senior PM to VP – 20:49

What It Takes to Get Promoted from IC to Manager – 26:51

This One Behavior Changes Everything (But Few PMs Do It) – 28:36

Ad (Attio) - 29:40

How to Be Seen as a Leader - 30:43

Brad’s Own Promotion Case to Manager – 34:47

Path from Manager to Director – 37:40

Aakash on Influencing a Company Without the Title – 38:48

What Helped Aakash & Brad Reach the VP Level – 48:47

Advice for PMs Who Want to Reach VP in Under 10 Years – 53:38

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Where to Find Brad

LinkedIn

Abrigo

Email productgrowthppp at gmail.com to discuss advertising or guest opportunities.

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I hope you enjoyed the last episode with Pawel Huryn (Complete Course: AI Product Management). Up next, we have episodes with:

Matt Le May - How to be Impact-First

Aatir Abdul Rauf - VP Marketing, VFairs; 70K+ on LinkedIn

Phyl Terry - Author, Never Search Alone

I’m so excited to share them with all of you.

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