This episode explores the art and science of investigative interviewing, as practiced by author Johann Hari. Against the backdrop of Hari's four books, each tackling a systemic societal problem, the discussion delves into his unique research methodology. More significantly, Hari describes his approach as akin to tracking bees to their hive, conducting hundreds of interviews and following leads to uncover hidden truths. For instance, his research on addiction led him to interview a trans crack dealer in New York, revealing unexpected personal stories that shed light on systemic issues. As the discussion pivoted to his interviewing techniques, Hari emphasizes the importance of genuine curiosity and emotional connection with interviewees, regardless of their backgrounds or actions. He shares how he prepares thoroughly, yet approaches each interview with humility, seeking to understand rather than judge. Ultimately, Hari's approach highlights the power of deep listening and the value of human stories in uncovering complex truths about societal problems, demonstrating how this approach has yielded impactful and insightful books.
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